Comments on The Burd Report: Rocks and Senses a new contemplative park area?

Coudn't agree more Deb. My spouse and I bough...

2010-01-23T08:55:47.572-05:00

Coudn't agree more Deb. My spouse and I bought our home about 6 years ago and during that time the demographic of the street changed, from middle-aged couples, to couples with young kids, households that are much louder, etc etc. Is it what we bought - heck no. Have I been annoyed by it, sure. We love our house and yard, we bought it because it had exactly what we wanted in a home. But like you, and like the people at the park, the area changed around us.

Like the people at the park, I have the option of selling my home and moving to an area that is quiet and more suitable to my lifestyle, instead of trying to ensure that everyone on the PUBLIC street in front of my house is quiet and suits their entire lifestyle to my wishes.

Do people really think their property rights upon ...

2010-01-22T14:24:13.735-05:00

Do people really think their property rights upon buying a home extend to magically freezing the neighbourhood in time so nothing changes?

And why does anyone "feel sorry" for the home owners when things do change? Jeez.

There's that outrageous sense of entitlement again.

Given that logic, I should have been able to put a stop to the annoying town house/apartment development that emerged down the street from my house. To hell with the 150 or so people who now live there, they had no right to intrude on my quiet street in the first place. Right? Wrong!

Whether we like it or not, we share our streets, our park, our town, our world, with everyone else in it.

Get used to it.

It is all fine and good to state that the people s...

2010-01-22T09:49:18.587-05:00

It is all fine and good to state that the people should have not purchased homes in the vicinity of the park in the first place, but up until just a few years ago we were not getting the hoards of people at the park on a regular basis and on the few occasions that there was an event it was tolerable. The crowds and congestion seems to be getting bigger every year. I do feel for those people that have lived in the area east of Victoria Park for several years because they purchased their home in a nice quiet area that has turned into a weekend circus.

It's interesting that the nearest house to the...

2010-01-22T08:03:12.534-05:00

It's interesting that the nearest house to the east end of the park is up for sale see Chomztv
at a magnificent price of over $6k. Wonder what the discount would have been for noisy neighbours?

Forget about user fees for the park - let's pu...

2010-01-22T07:37:56.222-05:00

Forget about user fees for the park - let's put a levy in place for the people living around the park - an area improvement fee perhaps.

These are the people who, as many of you have pointed out, made a purposeful choice to locate where they have, now they are requesting additional services from the town.
Put a fee in place for them to pay to support these excess services rather than putting the cost on the out of town residents (and generators of revenue aka tourists).

I bet at that point these folks living around the area would become much more quiet at the thought of having to put up or shut up!

Wait until the first big weekend when "Those ...

2010-01-22T07:04:20.406-05:00

Wait until the first big weekend when "Those pepople start to come and "take over" the park and I will guarantee Timmies will be buzzing with opinion. And if nobody except those who live there care why should we spend $20,000 on a rock garden just to improve the residents lifestyle?

I don't think anybody in Cobourg cares about w...

2010-01-21T16:45:15.259-05:00

I don't think anybody in Cobourg cares about what goes on in Victoria Park,except the no more than a half dozen people who live near the park . I agree with Wally saying they should have thought more about buying near the largest people drawer in town.

"If you buy it anyway, don't complain ...

2010-01-20T15:06:53.348-05:00
"If you buy it anyway, don't complain about the noise and crowds, you should have known that is part of the deal."

This is virtually the same arguement posited by the local right wing in Toronto to keep the island airport right where it is. All of the new condo owners that bought into new towers along the waterfront knew it was there, but they bought into it anyway.

Just once in my life I wish I could have had the wealth to even dreamof buying a house anywhere, but, alas, my life has been largely one of working poor.

The best efforts of the Town will not overcome the...

2010-01-20T13:14:50.706-05:00
The best efforts of the Town will not overcome the objections of some of the people, especially the neighbours of the park, at least one of whom wants to shut the park down at sunset.

When I was looking for a house to buy, my realtor took me to one across from Sinclair Park and its ball fields. Immediately I rejected it because I didn't want to wake up to cheering baseball fans and then listen to them all day long.

Similarly, if you want peace and quiet, you shouldn't buy a house beside the town's biggest park and tourist draw. If you buy it anyway, don't complain about the noise and crowds, you should have known that is part of the deal.

This outrageous sense of entitlement that some folks display needs to be brought down a peg or two. It's time we learned to share our world with others; it belongs to all of us, wherever we come from, and whether we have different cultural values or not.

Hopefully the Town's efforts to solve these problems will offer some relief to the park's neighbours, and allow our town's reputation as a welcoming destination to flourish.

But we all have to give a little to make it work.

I think they did a good job of addressing the actu...

2010-01-20T08:31:06.210-05:00
I think they did a good job of addressing the actual problems while not entertaining any of hood waving racists.