tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post3967388879671721054..comments2008-12-08T13:14:22.516-05:00Ben Burdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06372169478978720740ben@eagle.caBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-12708241102715614812008-12-08T12:19:00.000-05:002008-12-08T12:19:00.000-05:00I would find it advantageous if there were a program, but the stage performance seems to be heavy on acappella improvisation. Contrary to what some might presume, I did not vote for the Conservatives in the last election, but after witnessing the ad hoc crisis mismanagement of the past few days, I'm inclined to vote for the arrogance of Harper over the coalition of the incompetent.Wally Keelerhttp://poetency.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-14407560002920246762008-12-08T09:24:00.000-05:002008-12-08T09:24:00.000-05:00I need a program to follow all this. The outcome is far from certain, alot can happen between now and the end of January.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile the country drifts while the rest of the world builds strategies to ride out the storm.<BR/><BR/>The liberals have picked a fine time to implode. I don't like them but we need a strong alternative to Harper.<BR/><BR/>DJOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-21509541717136588422008-12-07T23:54:00.000-05:002008-12-07T23:54:00.000-05:00The Liberal Party, during years of prosperity, proved to be incompetent with their own party finances.<BR/><BR/>The coalition asserts that with Liberal leadership they can best weather the economic storm.<BR/><BR/>The coalition proposed Dion to lead the Canadian govt, when Liberals no longer wanted him to lead their own party.<BR/><BR/>Now we have a coalition who wants to lead the Canadian govt with an unknown leader for which no Canadian had voted. Talk about ad hoc make-it-up-as-we-go make-believe.<BR/><BR/>Slick, very slick.<BR/>Sick, very sick.<BR/><BR/>And all this when poll after poll after poll in recent days clearly indicated that Canadians do not want a coalition, and that both the Liberals and NDP have lost support from Canadian voters as a result of the coalition.<BR/><BR/>Are the Liberals and NDP listening to the Canadian people? Nope, not at all.<BR/><BR/>I note above that Ben Burd asserts if certain conditions were met, the results would be a "true coalition." Previous to this moment, Ben Burd had been extolling an untrue coalition as if it were the panacea to Canada. Przt!Wally Keelerhttp://poetency.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-15127878635173372232008-12-07T12:34:00.000-05:002008-12-07T12:34:00.000-05:00Ben Burd wrote<BR/>I think Manley wrote a piece from the centre-right perspective. That is if we get rid of Dion the true Libs will reassert themselves and instantly be recognised as the true-governing party and the voters will flock back because they don't like Harper.<BR/><BR/>I also think that Dion will go before Christmas and will replaced by either Iggy, which will PO Bob Rae and maintain a party split or Ralph Goodale/John McCullem will be in as an interim leader. The key to the Libs fortune will be Rae. He has to be bought off and moved out of the way. So it's Iggy as party leader (Appointed by the Lib executive on the recommendation of the caucus) and deputy Bob as major domo - he is needed to be the attack dog but cannot be the leader or else he will lose Ontario. That's the permanent scenario. The election scenario, needed because Harper will be sending us to the polls in January is this - Goodale as leader, until May. The coalition is dead because the main pushers are Rae and Layton, both non vote-getters in mainstream Canada.<BR/><BR/>Now what I would like to see is a seat model that shows the results if the NDP ran in strong ridings and the libs ran alone in their strong ridings, this will truly unite the left. The results woulod be a true coalition.Ben Burdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06372169478978720740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-11588722747978255832008-12-07T10:11:00.000-05:002008-12-07T10:11:00.000-05:00So you think Dion should stay, or in some respect is Manley correct?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-61441070299337981462008-12-06T10:58:00.000-05:002008-12-06T10:58:00.000-05:00John Manley saying what all Libs do when faced with failure - find a scapegoat, relace it (the King is dead long live the King) and carry on as usual, although now he does say that all parties must work together. Pity the Lib version of working together means "Us good Libs, because we are all knowing, will tell you what you need to do to make it work"Ben Burdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06372169478978720740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-81921553720116727112008-12-06T09:26:00.000-05:002008-12-06T09:26:00.000-05:00As an aside: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081205.wcomanley06/BNStory/specialCommentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23948057.post-75045825533932358272008-12-06T08:42:00.000-05:002008-12-06T08:42:00.000-05:00Good morning Debbie<BR/>I went scrolling through the threads here and saw you posting giving me what for.<BR/>I was most deserving of your scold.<BR/>I was most intemperate.<BR/>I glanced and saw "anonymous" but it was not.<BR/>I did not see the DJO<BR/>I don't regard anonymous as a person -- I'm like some people behind the wheel of a car -- I am an avowed bicyclist and know how some drivers of cars get. I was like that to anonymous.<BR/>I was wrong.<BR/>You were right.<BR/>I apologize to you personally<BR/>I repeat<BR/>I personally apologize to you personally.<BR/>-- Wally KeelerWally Keelerhttp://poetency.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com