Jeez, I'm really cranked up this morning
This post, taken from CBC News and repeated on NationalNewswatch talks about senior level insiders from the NDP and the LPC talking merger - are they nuts? Coalition and cooperation maybe but merger? Bad idea and it will never fly. This just demonstrates the disconnect between public opinon and reality. Must be a bad news day at the CBC, but then Warren Kinsella will spout off his meglomaniacal opinions at the drop of a hat, pity the CBC uses our tax dollars to reimburse him for appearing and pontificate.
A merger will never fly at either of the Party Conventions required to approve it no matter how much massaging of the policy goes on. The Libs are regarded as neo-cons by the Dippers and the NDP are looked upon as raving lefties by the Libs. Best to strike an accord, rather like the UK model, and then govern. Preferably it should be announced before the election as a fallback position and if one wants to get really brave some form of seat sharing should take place but mergomg of policy - no thanks.
A merger will never fly at either of the Party Conventions required to approve it no matter how much massaging of the policy goes on. The Libs are regarded as neo-cons by the Dippers and the NDP are looked upon as raving lefties by the Libs. Best to strike an accord, rather like the UK model, and then govern. Preferably it should be announced before the election as a fallback position and if one wants to get really brave some form of seat sharing should take place but mergomg of policy - no thanks.
11 comments:
If any two parties should merge, it's the Libs and Cons. They are practically indistinguishable anyway. Paul Martin is proof of that.
Voters need a real choice and we don't get that if we must choose between the two main parties.
With regards to Ben's post, I wonder if there are enough real socialists left in the NDP to oppose merging with the Libs. Seems to me their voices have been silenced by too many middle class types who have dumbed the party down to mush.
Who said it would be easy to merge Liberals and NDP? But no reason to think it wouldn"t be possible to coax most of them in the same boat. NDP used to be called "Liberals in a hurry". Neither party seems to be in much of a hurry at the moment.
It took quite a while for Reform and the PCs to get together but they seem happy enough now.
Nothing like being in power to easy the conscience and soothe the betrayal of ideals.
Geez, Bob Rae wanders back from Kandahar babbling about "Seeing this thing through." Huh? What kind of horse shit is THAT? Here I am looking for the first politician with the guts to stand up and say 'Vote for me and I'll have us on the first C-140 out of that benighted shithole by supper time!" and what do I get from Bob: "Oh, I don't know. Maybe we should hang around and see if things improve because, well, there's always tomorrow, isn't there? And they seem like such nice people, especially that Mr. Karzai and his many friends, most of whom I got to know quite well over beer and skittles...."
I don't care what party says it. I don't care if it's the Monster Raving Looney Party, The Rhinocereous Party, The Communist Party Of Canada or -God forbid!- The Conservative Rumpists. I just want somebody to stand up and say "We're OUTTA THERE!" No more namby-godamned-pamby "I support the troops but I don't support the mission" claptrap. Just say it: We've invaded somebody else's country and we're the bad guys and the average Afghan looks at us the same way we look at Major Strasser in Casablanca. No more of Pete Fisher's ghoulish drooling over boxes full of Kibbles-n-Bits heading down the 401 for what? An autopsy? Get real. You get blown to pieces the size of something that comes out of a Puritan Beef Stew can and we're supposed to believe an autopsy is going to help determine the cause of death? If those gape-jawed flagwavers had half a brain among them, if patriotism wasn't their drug of choice, maybe, just maybe they'd be able to figure out what suckers they are for buying into the most monsterous lie since immaculate conception.
But no. There ain't one single godamned politician in this whole corrupt, boastful little backwater that's got the guts to say it: Vote for me and we'll get the hell out of Afghanistan and never, ever go anywhere else in the world where we're about as welcome as a public colostomy. And we'll start looking after our own while we're at it too. What a change that would be, eh? What a concept. Addressing native teen suicides in the far north or settling land claims in a decent manner. DO something decent in Caledonia. Get off the U.N.'s shitlist over how we treat our natives. Find some REAL pride -not the canned, contrived pride that comes with Big Media hyping of a bunch of human racehorses in Whistler. What a terrible, terrible waste that dog-n-pony was. A real Canadian embarassment. No, let's not have anymore of that crap. No more at all. We had Terry Fox once. We had Norman Bethune once. We even had Ma Murray once and Pierre Berton and Isabelle Labourdais. God we had it all and we pretty much kept our mouths shut about it because that's who we we're. Now we got goofy little men who live on Bagot Street arbitrarily hi-jacking Dominion Day and turning it into the flannel-mouthed Happy Face holiday called -ugh!- Canada Day. Maybe that's where it all started, with dicking around with history, changing it to suit our puffed up needs as those needs arose. Sickening.
So ferchrissake somebody stand up and say it. Say WE'RE GETTING THE HELL OUT OF THIS DEAD HORSE'S ASS AND THE GETTING OUT STARTS THE MINUTE I GET ELECTED.
Say it. Just godamned well say it, will ya?
C'mon Merk, if one of 'em actually did or does say it, why would you even think about believing them? Where have you bin the last 100 or so years?
God damn those "middle class types". If they were able to dumb down the NDP to mush, then the NDP has exceedingly low levels of intelligence if they permitted that to happen to them. No wonder the majority of the voters have never put socialists into federal power; look at the utter stupidity of the socialists when all they can do is call the majority insulting names and make pejorative remarks.
Voters have always had a real choice. Every time I went to vote, I had a choice of multiple parties. So did all the other voters. The NDP has never been a "main" party because they have been incapable of pursuading voters to vote for them.
Merk the Mild can't bring himself to outright say:
Fuck the little Afghan girls and their education.
Fuck the rest of the world and their cesspool countries, cesspool cultures.
Bring it all back home, including all the foreign aid that relieves dictators and other leadershits to spend their own countries' taxes on their security guards and palaces.
And fuck the identity politics that lefties promote.
Native Canadians have brains equal to anyone else. They can make it on their own as individuals. It is the stupidity of those promoting more more more more money for them, thereby infantilizing them.
Wally as a wordsmith your vocabulary appears to be limited with all the F-bombs you are throwing.
I think we get the emphasis.
Oh I get it. I don't post an f-bomb on your blog for well over a year, but I notice that Murky can post them once in a while over the year and not a whine out of you.
I had brought to your attention that other posters could post about suicide but you prevented me from doing the same. When I called you on it, you declared that no one henceforth could mention suicide.
So tell me Ben, why is it that you have a fucken double standard?
It's his blog. If you feel hampered by the limitations he chooses to impose, you could always move on to more accepting venues. That's just one thought you could entertain. Another would be to create your own forum for whatever you wish to 'put out there'. If you need some more ideas, just say so.
I have my own blog, several. I am aware that it is HIS blog. Yes, I acknowledge that he can apply whatever double standard he wants. So anonymous, does that mean I cannot point out that he runs with a double standard -- one for me, and one for his leftie dipsticks? Hmmm?
Yes, I like ideas, but prefer original ideas. Obviously Anonymous has none to deliver.
Pointing out the obvious is redundant. Griping about it is whining, as you've pointed out yourself and is something you would not engage in of course. As well, you may well have your own blog but what was suggested was "forum" which comprises unlimited venues, just in case you missed that point.
And as has been said before, the name calling diminishes the caller far more than the target; it effectively categorizes the caller as, at best, only marginally relevant to the discussion. But, if that's your hovel of choice where you feel most at home, so be it. Just don't expect all of us to willfully share in your machinations.
It's just so much fun to unpush your buttons (a bit like yanking your chain).
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