Just a quick sum-up
With the board agreeing that events mar the normal performance of Vic Park this thought has been nagging me for the past 1000kms - why can't the RibFest be placed on the pier? A much more secure and larger place for everything. Perhaps we should be using this space for something productive seeing as we don't allow people to park there.
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Or Donegan Park. Everything does not have to be downtown, we will happily share it around
Good idea, Ben. And if I may -why can't the RibFest be held just a slightly long walk off that rather short pier? Like I say....just a suggestion.
We could start to hold everything starting next year at the new community centre or leave everything in Victoria Park and the people who don't like it there could just stay away from Vic park like most of the Cobourg people do anyways, because you never see many of the local residents there anyway.
Not just the Ribfest. That pier is the most valuable wasted space in Cobourg. It seems every other village or town located on a lake river or swamp has a waterfront restaurant where locals and visitors can enjoy the breeze and a view. Not Cobourg! Bad enough that a bunch of trailers take up a good chunk of Victoria Patk but we also have a huge empty asphalt space next to it going to waste. The town should build a pub/restarant on the pier and lease it like they do the snack bar to some creative entrepreneur .
criticall suggested, "The town should build a pub/restarant on the pier"
The town should do no such thing. The town has neither competence nor experience to construct pubs and restaurants. They have no mandate to construct businesses.
Let private enterprise do it.
Funny thing Wally, if the town can build a $27 million community hockey palace (where are all the private sector hockey entrepreneurs), they can construct a building suitable for a restaurant/bar on the east pier and lease it out. The town built the Marina building and the Beach Hut for the pleasure of its residents and visitors, and they could do this too.
I agree with Wally. If it's left up the town, they'll give it to the yacht club or some other elitist organization for a dollar a year.
Is the community centre a business? It is being built from cash from governents other than Cobourg. I'm not keen on the municipal government being involved in the construction of buildings here and there for the benefit of a business enterprise.
The storage area for luxury boats of the yacht club is the last remaining eyesore on our waterfront. The least that could be doone is the planting of evergreen trees (cedar) to hide this ugly blemish. It would have to be paid for by the town because the unpoor folks who own the boats are too hard done by to pony up to pay the tab -- selfish bastards.
critical1 - important to note that the town is doing that $27m only due to support from the feds and the province - similar to the waterfront.
Unfortunately, the town has demonstrated that it likes to be in the realm of private business - the industrial park, Cobourg Networks, the various companies owned by the Town's HoldCo, all to name a few.
I agree with many on here saying that it is not the role of the Town to be building and leasing such a space - the Town should be divesting itself of these private enterprises and getting back to its core business of government.
I think someone should import a diner, like in the states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wellsboro_Diner_interior.jpg
You can choose the style for a heritage Town, and they will move it for you. The Town should help with the space and the connections. A great addition to our waterfront. We don't have ONE good restaurant looking out on the lake ! I partially agree with Critical1.
I think that someone should be you!
There have been so many great ideas posted in the BR lately. I wonder a couple of things.
These ideas must have been put forward before(restaurant on the pier; utilizing other parks for special events; pressuring the DBIA) and why are they still ideas? Is this town really waiting for the old guard to die off before taking steps to insure the survivability of Cobourg?
"taking steps to insure the survivability of Cobourg"
Cobourg has been around for some time now, and will continue to be so, despite all the really clever and superior minds that keep making bonehead observations and comments, who have decided that Cobourg's very survival hinges on their invaluable contributions.
Judging by many of the comments right here on the BR, it's almost a miracle that Cobourg even still exists today. I'd offer the observation that it takes far brighter minds to ensure that Cobourg "survives" the efforts of the dimmer ones.
Clearly anonymous 27 completely despises people who contribute to the Burd Report ( "despite all the really clever and superior minds that keep making bonehead observations and comments," ).
(S)he also doesn't believe in people making suggestions ("Judging by many of the comments right here on the BR, it's almost a miracle that Cobourg even still exists today").
I cannot imagine why Anonymous 27 reads the BR, or contributes to it when (s)he has so little time for it.
Surely the Burd Report should reward Anonymous 27's sentiments and those of her/his Anonymous colleagues by finally banning Anonymous comments.
a brief response to "a regular"
"Is this town really waiting for the old guard to die off before taking steps to insure the survivability of Cobourg?"
as it is ever so, what is now the "old guard" were once the bright and eager newbies, and they have contributed whatever they could to bring their town to this point. To suggest that because they are now "the old guard" and did little to get us here (before taking steps to insure the survivability) is both demeaning and insulting. The newbies will one day also be "the old guard" so be sure to remember your assessment of their lowly efforts.
If the suggestions "a regular" is referring to are really that innovative or promising, why not make them to those who can actually develop them, like council, or at least the individual councilors, instead of just sharing them here. That would be a more meaningful contribution, I'm sure. The BR report is not the place to do that if you want results.
the well-known "a regular" remarked "Surely the Burd Report should reward Anonymous 27's sentiments and those of her/his Anonymous colleagues by finally banning Anonymous comments." Would that extend to the cuter forms of "anonymous" such as "a regular" as well, or just to the really really, really anonymouses?
Ken Jansen said "because you never see many of the local residents there anyway."
WOW! Ken must have one helluva database in his cranium if he can identify the over 18,000 locals when he sees them anywhere! Just how does he do it?
I've lived here over 50 years and it would tax my memory beyond its abilities just to recognize 10 percent of us.
Amazing, truly amazing!
Anonymous 27 says "If the suggestions "a regular" is referring to are really that innovative or promising, why not make them to those who can actually develop them, like council, or at least the individual councilors, instead of just sharing them here. That would be a more meaningful contribution, I'm sure. The BR report is not the place to do that if you want results."
We have been there and done that. Four years ago, after the last election, ex-Mayoral candidate and ex-councillor Lloyd Williams suggested that citizens should not write to the newspaper as it annoyed councillors, but should instead contact council members directly. Well I tried this on accessibility issues, cycling safety issues and on away the town could save money by using waste heat from the Frink to heat Victoria Hall. I scored 0 for 3.
Many of the contributors to the Burd Report, who also include past council members, have discovered that making direct presentations to council, and writing letters, is much better. Sometimes it gets action, but always it lets the public know what is going on. The Burd Report also lets people know what is going on, which is presumably why 27 Anonymous people are against it.
which "it" is Greg H referring to in "which is presumably why 27 Anonymous people are against it"? Is it the "BR" or is it the elimination of anonymous comments or something else?
The 27 in Anonymous 27 refers to the $27 million being spent on the new sports facility under the pretense that it is a community centre so the whole thing seems to have an identity issue, hence "anonymous 27". It's also a completely random number to represent just one of the number of anon's that post here, but could be 10 or maybe 44, who knows, and who cares.
Anonymous 27 IS against silencing the anon's of the world, IS for the BR, IS against the endless prattle of preprogrammed and repetative criticisms that remain just that, IS for the expression of purposeful ideas and thoughts on how to advance them, IS against phoney doublespeak about tolerance on any subject, and is for and against many other things, so, it would be interesting to know which "it" Mr. H is pointing at if we are to make sense of that part of his comment.
The abuse of Victoria Park by Northumberland Ribfest gets an early start. Pete Fisher isn't likely to inform Cobourgers of this sort of stuff, because, well, because, after all is said and done, Northumberland Today is desiganted as a 'media partner' on the Northumberland Ribfest web site.
People don't like to hear the truth. Obviously, your council serve you all poortly, and you are all angry.
RESULT: Sophism is developped by people(specious argument used for deceiving someone).
Obviously, everybody should go back to rethink the methods of Socrates. Welcome to quidams !!!
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